Not Yet


A Commentary on the Sabbath School Lesson for August 9-15, 2008, “The Apostle John”
The Return of Christ

John, it has been said, has a different view of the Christian hope than the other writers of the New Testament. Whereas the other writers project the believer’s hope into the future, John sees the hope realized in the present. C. H. Dodd, beginning in 1936 and later expanding his view in a book titled The Interpretation of the Fourth Gospel (1953), claims that John’s eschatology is “realized eschatology.” The focus of the believer’s hope should be on the present and not on the future. Ultimate fulfillment is to come to faith in Jesus and not, as in the eschatological scenario of the rest of the New Testament, the return of Jesus. Again, according to the realized vision of Dodd and Bultmann, the emphasis is on the fact that Jesus has come and not that he is coming again.

It is undeniable that John has a lot to say about fulfillment in the present and about the ultimacy of a person’s decision in the present. For instance, judgment happens in John at the moment when a person comes face to face with God’s revelation in Jesus, and it takes place in the present (John 9:35–41; 12:47–48). But the notion that the shape of John’s hope is best understood as “realized eschatology” is not sustainable.

Consider for a moment the promise in Jesus’ farewell speech to his disciples.

Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, so that where I am, there you may be also. (John 14:1–3)

In this text, Jesus retains all the elements that are sublimated in the paradigm of realized eschatology. Temporally, Jesus speaks of a future point in time, assuring his disciples, already grieved by the prospect of Jesus’ departure, that he “will come again and will take you to myself.” Spatially, Jesus speaks of (1) going away to another place; (2) of returning to where they are; and (3) of taking the waiting believer to where he is.

This verse is not an exception, a lone island in the sea of John’s pervasive “realized eschatology,” as it were. In fact, the spatial parameters of Jesus’ mission are nowhere more starkly and materially emphasized than in John.

I will be with you a little while longer, and then I am going to him who sent me’ (John 7:33).

Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he had come from God and was going to God (John 13:1).

Simon Peter said to him, ‘Lord, where are you going?’ Jesus answered, ‘Where I am going, you cannot follow me now; but you will follow afterward’ (John 13:36).

And you know the way to the place where I am going (John 14:4).

But now I am going to him who sent me; yet none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ (John 16:5).

. . . about righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will see me no longer (John 16:10).

So you have pain now; but I will see you again, and your hearts will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you (John 16:22).

I came from the Father and have come into the world; again, I am leaving the world and am going to the Father (John 16:28).

These examples do not exhaust the supply in John, but they will suffice for the present purpose. It is not the “inner” world of faith (“realized eschatology”) but the “outer” world of hope that are the subject of this text. There is ambiguity in some verses, the ambiguity of “going away” to die and “going away” to the Father, but it is the “going away” to the Father, returning to the Father in an objective, physical sense that predominates. The end of this story has not yet come; it will not come until Jesus returns. In this sense, the end point of the story in the Gospel of John is like the end point in the Synoptics or in the Book of Revelation, “to be with him where he is, and to see his glory” (John 17:24).

According to some scholars, it became necessary to sublimate the temporal and spatial parameters of the Christian because the delay of Jesus’ return was taking its toll. In John, however, there is no such sublimation. John’s remedy in the interim period is not to say that the believer’s hope has already been fulfilled but rather to urge the believers to continue to follow Jesus, awaiting the future fulfillment. Indeed, the Gospel of John ends on this note.

Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; he was the one who had reclined next to Jesus at the supper and had said, ‘Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?’ When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, ‘Lord, what about him?’ Jesus said to him, ‘If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? Follow me!’ (John 21:20–22)

In this text, the believer’s hope has not been fulfilled; it will not be fulfilled “until I come,” as in Jesus’ answer to Peter. In the meantime, looking neither to the right nor to the left nor to whether or not other people seem to get a better deal, Peter is to follow Jesus.

John’s epistles resonate with the same message as his Gospel. “Beloved, we are God's children now; what we will be has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him as he is” (1 John 3:2). As in the Gospel, we find a strong and unambiguous affirmation of the believer’s status in the present. Something is indeed realized; “we are God’s children now.” But the believer’s hope has emphatically not been realized in the present, not yet, not now; “what we will be has not yet been revealed.” It awaits future fulfillment. Only “when he is revealed,” considered as an experience that will not come to full fruition in the present, will we “be like him;” only then will we “see him as he is.”

John is an agent of hope second to none. He stands out as an agent of the hope that is realized, but he is equally a sober voice insisting that we are not there yet; we have not yet arrived. “And this is what he has promised us, eternal life” (1 John 2:25), realized now, to be sure, and yet not yet.

Sigve Tonstad is assistant professor of religion and biblical studies in the School of Religion at Loma Linda University.

Comments

As a person who loves the present tense, these comments meant a lot. ". . . now, to be sure, and yet not yet." providing the comfort of a both/and statement. I guess the challenge is not to let the comfort of being with Christ in the now diminish the significance of the blessed hope.

To resume an old argument: How much of Scripture is to be read literally, and what is metaphor?

If we have been judged already, is there a future judgment? How do we bring these disparate events together?

If the kingdom is to be now, what of the hope for one in the future?

Should this not be explored more than mere acceptance of the text as literal and it is all
part of the "blessed hope"?

Which raises another common question? How would we live differently today if this life is all there is? All the OT patriarchs had no such belief: their future (and immortality) was in the land and progeny.

Judgment is also a term used of those who receive a court decision in their favor.

1CO 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

Jesus Christ is the Eschaton. He is the Alpha and Omega of our being. Calvary was the inaugral Eschaton the Parusia is the Consummate Eschaton. We live as John the Revalator pointed out in the expectation of the fulfillment or the End Time. That is why we pray, even so come Lord Jesus. That is why the Moravians were so serene on board the ship carrying John Wesley to America. Their end was sure so can ours be also. Praise be to God! Tom

Elaine, you said: "If we have been judged already, is there a future judgment? How do we bring these disparate events together?"

How do you read Revelation 14:7 NIV, He said in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come."

Is it the hour he judges us? Or, is it the hour that the universe judges God? The hour God has now come into final judgment. Who is on trial? Us, or God?

"He who hears me and believes Him who sent Me, ha eternal life, and DOES NOT COME INTO JUDGMENT, BUT HAS PASSED OUT OF DEATH INTO LIFE"
John 5:24.

Why does God need to be judged by anyone? Where does such an idea originate?

Elaine
I could not help but chuckle upon reading your last post. You always get to basics in a big hurry! Keep at it!
Dave

Elaine, you asked, "Why does God need to be judged by anyone? Where does such an idea originate?"

Oh, let see, how about starting in Genesis 3? God is accused of lying. So, is he lying or not? Do we not make a judgment about God about whether he lies or not?

Back to your previous statement: "If we have been judged already, is there a future judgment? How do we bring these disparate events together?" Is the final judgment really about us? I think most would say yes. But is that really true?

John 12:46-47
(46) I have come into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me should not remain in the darkness.
(47) If people hear my message and do not obey it, I will not judge them. I came, not to judge the world, but to save it.

John 3:16-19
(16) For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.
(17) For God did not send his Son into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior.
(18) Those who believe in the Son are not judged; but those who do not believe have already been judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son.
(19) This is how the judgment works: the light has come into the world, but people love the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds are evil.

With all the questions and answers coming from the same source: The Bible, what should one expect? However, there are so many contradictory statements in that same book, that each person can pick and choose and find his favorite points.

Again: why is it that one, and only one book, written thousands of years ago, is the only one proffered to hold all of life's answers? Isn't that limited in being the source of all of life's mysteries? Each culture has its own sources of origins and answers, and those fortunate to have been born into the world's largest religion decides its own source. However, globally, Christianity may not always be the largest, then what? And, of course, Christianity derived much of its concepts from earlier religious cultures with very little that was original and unique.

What about the concept of each time we(we of any culture) choose Christ's way(whether we have heard of the person Christ or not) to the best of our understanding, in whatever we might think, say, do or not do, that we are judged; judged innocent.? What a Hope past, present and future for anyone!

Elaine

I missed responding to your comment: Is the Universe judging God?

Yes it has. We alone in the universe are in the process of that judgement. The text does not refer to IJ at all.

The judgement is on the Everylasting Gospel and the finished work of Jesus Christ. Was it necessary? Is it sufficient?
All the universe replies in the affirmative: It is only this world that is still trying to make up its mind.

The question is the question of Joshua. "How long halt ye between two opinions?" Let us all say: Yes Lord, I believe that Jesus paid it all! Even so come Lord Jesus.

To claim a proprietary or exclusive understanding of Rev. 14
to bolster an error stemming back more than 164 years is arrogance supreme. A very sad commentary on those who claim to have the final Truth! Tom

Hi and thank you elaine for your comments got a question what's your view on "SUPERNATURAL STRENGTH" and how it applies to the beleiver becuase god does say he has given us a spirit of power right?

Acoustic: I haven't the slightest idea what was meant by that expresion. Where is it in the Bible? Too much depends on the context and one's own interpretation. Could it be referring to Superman's ability? Or Samson's?

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