We have issues and I know it might not be popular thing to say, but in a humble way, I am proud of being a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

I think being proud is Biblical ... or something.

I am proud of being a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
I am proud of being a part of the Puritan-Methodist-Wesleyan-Anabaptist tradition
I am proud of being a part of the Protestant community.
I am proud of being a part of the Roman Catholic-Western heritage.
I am proud of being a part of the Christian Church.
I am proud of being a part of the Jewish world.
I am proud of being a part of the Monotheistic sphere.
I am proud of being a part of the Spiritual realm.
I am proud of being a part of the Human race.
I am proud of being a part of the Universe.
I am proud of being a part of God.

Interesting interview, one of the few times I recall the General Conference president interviewed in the public media. What I learned is that there is a crack in the foundation of the church that was new to me. Is the church dividing into "blue" and "red" sectors. What's driving the schism? Must be the failure of no longer having Nuteena available for sandwiches and salads. Anyone know what happened to Nuteena? Maybe it is time to revisit the food stores and rebuild muscle to resist the temptation to go to war over any disagreements. The Adventist church was one church when there was Nuteena on the shelf, remember?

I was impressed by Pr. Paulsen's interview except in re the schism. He seemed to attribute it to cultural differences. I am not aware of any organism in the Church that deals with interpretational differences and New Light

Dr. T Joe,

If you would have queried your Nuteena question 2 days ago, I might have been of some assistance, as I happened to be browsing the LLU Food Market.

I had never been there before, and probably will never be again.

Your question would have given me purpose, other than my idol curiosity.

It was an interesting place. I saw more fake this, and mock that, it could have been a plastic surgeon's office.

I never thought to investigate the demise(or not) of Nuteena.

I did find it interesting that I was stuck in rush hour traffic, leaving the university campus at 12:45 friday afternoon.

Randy

Such a confusing representation and facade for pastor Paulsen to front considering that the most striking and detrimental change to true Seventh-day Adventist belief is kept underneath public consideration.

This will continue to misrepresent the truth that Seventh-day Adventists were to bear to a lost world even as late as just after the death of Ellen White around 1919. After the pioneers died off the book Questions on Doctrine was written and trinitarians began to come out of the closet and take away the primitive truth of Christ as the only begotten Son of God by accepting and promoting Trinity. The main reason for the writing of the book "Seventh-day Adventists answer Questions on Doctrine" was because Evangelical heretic hunters Barnhouse and Martin asked L.E. Froom & R. A. Anderson(SDA bigshots) "What do you believe about the Trinity?" Since then it has been one compromise after the next.

What will be the final compromise in the end of all things? To give up the Bible Sabbath of course.

"It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the papacy."
Ellen White, {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}

I listened to the interview with Dr. Paulsen and recognize that the questions were directed.

Non the less, I heard no representation of the fact of the necessity of accepting Christ as savior and Lord regardless of cutural upbringing. Did I miss it or is this a part of our lack of emphasis on Christ our Righteousness?

pt

Great interview.

Jan Paulsen gives a polished interview. I'm late in this thread. It was the SS Lesson on John the Baptist that brought me back to the interview. What a contrast in style, content, goals. Both received their commission or ordination to Witness to Jesus Christ. John was forthright in whom salvation rested. Jan was clear but on everything but the point of being a Church. I think everyone involved thought the interview went well. I think everyone listening thought everything as pat. Maybe there was a trailer that said, write-in for a free booklet on Why a special voice witnessing as to why Jesus Christ is Lord is needed today.

Few in the Western World contest the need for and the evidence of the soon return of Jesus. Few in the Western World contest the need for and the benefits of private and public worship in a sense of community. Few in the Western World see a need for a Sabbatharian fixation on Salvation.
Few in the Western World deny that Jesus Christ as Lord is also both Advocate and Judge. Yet the emphasis of the interview was the Church's fidelity to Scripture rather than the Gospel Commission.

Overall, as these interviews go, It was an institutional success. The opportunity to focus on the Gospel will again have to wait for another day. Never-the-less, in terms of recent leadership Jan Paulsen is a breath of fresh air. Tom

"Few in the Western World" .....

Clearly the 'Western' view from London is a whole lot different to the view in Georgia.

It is likely that less than 5% of people in Britain, (probably in Europe) would begin to relate to your proposition.

I think church attendance in Britain on Sundays is around 2%.

The challenges to Christianity are far greater than those between Christians.

Some time ago - just before the site collapsed - you asked where I was during Glacier View.

In fact I was teaching Math and Science in South Africa, to children for whom life's prospects were not great. Children would come to school in buses with every window smashed en route. I recall one day receiving word from the Head that would should be sensitive to a particular girl student because she had been raped on the way to school. I could not comprehend how life could just go on for some of these people.

In that kind of context, some of these theological debates are luxuriant in the extreme.

World view's do determine what is important.

In 50 years or less, this country will likely resemble Britian and Europe in their church attendance. That is, unless there are drastic changes made. Big church attendance there, as here, is on Easter and Christmas--holidays. The most "religious" nation today is Israel--where it is both an ethnicity and religion that is the cohesive factor; nevertheless, by far are merely secular Jews.

In the more southern countries of Europe where Catholicism is the major religion, how often does anyone attend church? There are faithful Catholics who go to confession and mass on a weekly basis, but sports, including soccer in most countries, and football in the U.S. is the major religion--see the packed stadiums!

Victor

The phrase was "few ...contest" Church attendance is not a statistic related to the statement. Victor--I wrote from Georgia to be sure. But I am not isolated from the Western World any more than South Africa is. Math and Science should give you a better basis of for argumentation. I do agree that the challenges to Christianity are far greater than those between Christians. The problem is SDA won't admit it.

They see, preach, and pontificate on the Christian garb of the Beast and his mark! It is the SDA Church that has built a chasm between itself and other Christians.

I have no interest in matching third world countries with you, but I was in charge of third world public health projects at two Academic Health Centers for more than 34 years and had my boots on the ground in a score or more communities dominated by barefoot potbellied, waifs and graft propelled local governments.

My point was simply there is no human solution to the sickness of the World--What a opportunity Jan Paulsen had and he failed to be a John the Baptist as the SS lesson enjoins us to be. Never-the-less, in the field of broadcast journalism Jan Paulsen did just fine. It just wasn't the watchman set on a hill approach to a unique opportunity. If only 2% are aware, then the need is even greater than I imagined. I guess that is because there is a dispensational church on every street corner in Georgia.

Interesting you didn't place my question on Glacier View in context. It was your emphatic defense the prompted my question--you were challenging my statements and infering you were much closer to the issue than I.

I don't give a fig on where you were, I do care about personal challenges to one's geography as coloring ones statements. Tom

In 50 years or less, this country will likely resemble Britian and Europe in their church attendance. That is, unless there are drastic changes made. Big church attendance there, as here, is on Easter and Christmas--holidays. The most "religious" nation today is Israel--where it is both an ethnicity and religion that is the cohesive factor; nevertheless, by far are merely secular Jews.

In the more southern countries of Europe where Catholicism is the major religion, how often does anyone attend church? There are faithful Catholics who go to confession and mass on a weekly basis, but sports, including soccer in most countries, and football in the U.S. is the major religion--see the packed stadiums!
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Elaine,
In 50 years (if the world lasts that long), Whites in America will be a minority, and if for that reason alone, church attendance will be greater than it is even today.
State religion is what has gotten Europe where it is today, and a socialist outlook has kept them there.

More realistically, pursuant to the trends outlined by Phillip Longman in his essay about the triumph of the patriarchy, the churches Spectrum so admires will be dead and gone by then; leaving the Catholics, Evangelicals, Baptists, Pentecostals and Adventists.

Europe, however, will not be in America's future.

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